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liantsim   Waterloo, IA

1/14/2013 9:04:49 PM

I'm really hoping more research is done on the commercially prepared raw diets. I see a lot of potential benefits to a more natural diet, but for the time being, I'm only feeding my dog minimal amounts of raw dehydrated foods until I am sure it is safe.

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Leslie - 233329   Lakeside, AZ

12/31/2012 8:37:55 AM

Good information about hazards of raw diets. thanks

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JudithT   Bramsche,

12/28/2012 4:16:19 AM

@bk52girl hi you dont have to be afraid of the bacterias etc of your dog is a healthy one. dogs can handle them very
well.
just take a look at rawfed.com its a great site taht explains everything. you might wanna check the myths
site.
they have a yahoo und fb group which you can join and start feeding raw. they will help you with any problem if there will be
some.
i did what they say and it went great without any problems at
all.
they are sometimes a bit harsh but they know what they are talking about and would have advice for every possible
situation.
especially for your diabetic dogs you cant feed any better than prey model raw, believe
me.
it was the best decision ever i made for my dogs and cats.

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Lezlee   Kerrville, Texas

12/18/2012 5:02:06 AM

This paragraph came from a page on the CDC web site regarding salmonella in dry dog
food.

“Consumers and health departments should be aware that all dry pet food, pet treats (3), and pet supplements (4) might be contaminated with pathogens such as Salmonella, and consumers should use precautions with all brands of dry pet food, treats, and supplements. In contrast, canned pet food is unlikely to be contaminated with such pathogens because the manufacturing process should eliminate bacterial contamination. To prevent Salmonella infections, persons should wash their hands for at least 20 seconds with warm water and soap immediately after handling dry pet foods, pet treats, and pet supplements, and especially before preparing and eating food for humans. Infants should be kept away from pet feeding areas. Children aged <5 years should not be allowed to touch or eat dry pet food, treats, or
supplements.”

Below I have copied and paste the links because they are very long and there are two different
pages:

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5744a2. htm

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5719a4. htm



P.S. Overcooked hard kibble type dog food verses raw meat and bones looks like a 50-50 chance of salmonella poisoning either way.


Lets see....processed food verses real food. Which is healthier? Which would you give children?

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bk52girl   Bonita Springs, FL

12/17/2012 6:04:03 PM

Been thinking about raw for some time now and have been really afraid worried my girls would get sick. I have cooked for them for many years and are doing good much better then years ago when they were eating dog food.Read about so many companies offering raw but can't seem to go ahead with it. For one both my girls are up in age and 1 has been diabtetic for 8 years. Always was sick until I started cooking for her and I guess I feel why fix something that isn't broke, but at the same time I want them to have the best nutrition.

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Rod   Orlando, Florida

12/17/2012 4:22:05 PM

The Nanny Vets have their long knives out in fear that their kibble market will "dry up" (get it?) if too many pet owners find out how much more healthful home-prepared diets, especially the raw variety, are for their dogs and cats. You'd think we didn't have a clue about how to wash our hands after handling raw meats -- as if we never cooked anything at home.

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Judithtmartin   dewey, AZ

12/17/2012 1:24:03 PM

Where is the science? Conclusions here are based upon supposition. Studies NOT supported by any dog food company would be useful.

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Jody   Colorado Springs, Colorado

12/17/2012 12:19:56 PM

Please don't get me started. Too late. As one whose been feeding raw for over 5 years I can attest to the health of my animals! My 90 lbs Collie lived to 14 years old with no loss to hearing or eyesight. I also have a raw dog food business with 25 plus customers and growing. Most come to me because their dog is sick and they've tried everything the vet threw at them. And imagine that they are now getting healthy. Having done much research and taken a canine nutrition class I'm even more convinced that a raw diet is the healthiest choice. Please do NOT cook your raw food. Also, make sure they are getting bone in their diet. Otherwise they will not be getting enough calcium. Do your research. There are many good books on how to feed raw properly to make sure your pet gets a balanced diet.


As far as pathogens and such. There has been more commercial pet food recalls for tainted food that has killed thousands of animals or have made people sick from salmonella. What you say? There have been more cases of salmonella contamination from commercial dry kibble than from raw food fed
pets.

I dare anyone to ask their vet how much nutrition education they received in school. Their education comes from pet food manufacturers. Period. Hill's is a prime example. They fund schools, help vets through school, offer free food, buy equipment for schools, and the list goes on. They are truly bought and controlled by the pet food industry. Truly sad.

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Erin   Orland Park, Illinois

12/17/2012 12:10:23 PM

Follow the money! My dogs have been VERY healthy since being on a raw diet for the past 3 years. I will not change after reading this article. Dogs are carnivores NOT cornivores. Handling raw food for my dogs comes with the same risk as handling raw meat before being cooked for myself.

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Angela   Anaconda, Montana

12/14/2012 9:49:56 AM

I usually appreciate the info AAHA publishes and hold them in high esteem, but this conclusion seems premature and lacks hard evidence. No incidents of actual pathogen contamination in dogs and cats were cited. It doesn't mention what temperature the meats were at or for how long before testing them for pathogens. Until they can be more specific and scientific with their presentation, I will continue to use a home cooked semi-raw with no concerns beyond common sense and basic sanitary practices when handling meats.

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Eileen - 249708   Port Perry, ON

10/23/2012 5:50:10 PM

This is an interesting debate. I can see were both sides on the raw debate are coming from. I have a dog with severe food allergies. We had a very hard time finding food she could eat without a reaction. At one point it took 3 months to re establish her digestional floral after a severe reaction. Now we only give her totally natural foods, apples, banana, kelp, carrots, pure cooked vension jerky or salmon jerky, and raw venison. The meat is not just what you purchase at the local store it is purchsed after it goes through a pressure and water cleaning process for food borne illness specifically prepared for dogs. Yes it is expensive but it it worth the money. My dog is classified as a rare breed and a performance dog competing agility, relay and doing dog shows and she has had no problems since we made this change well over a year ago. Our vet is keeping close tabs to ensure her health. Her performance speed has increased, her coat is like silk, her intelligence and memory are well above average and she has high energy.

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Tad   Lakewood, Washington

9/22/2012 3:20:25 AM

we switched our dogs to a raw food diet about 18 months ago. The reason for the switch? Our three year old sheppard mix was in pain, the vets said she grew too fast and was suffering from hip displaxia (sp?). Three different vets at three different unrelated offices said we had two options - put her down to end her suffering, or pay up to $4,000 for a surgery. All of them told us the surgery would likely not be successful - on said about a 20% chance for success. They all said we would buy her three to six more months of life, but she would still be in pain with the
surgery.

We went with option number three - we switched to a commercial raw food diet after attending a pet expo. Two months after starting the diet...she exhibited NO signs of pain. She was running again, and even though not built for jumping...she was jumping. She remains pain free. She has been to the vet since then of course, but only for routine check-ups and the vets, while not ready to say raw food was the right choice have told us not to switch her back.


In effort of full disclosure, both our dogs recently suffered bacterial infections. The vets assured us that the raw diet was probably not the culprit but was actually more liekly from the nearby field we walk them in as it is used by many other dogs and owners that are not as responible as we are in picking up after them. we have continued to feed them the commercial raw diet...and they are the happiest two dogs in the world.

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Andrew   Buffalo, New York

9/8/2012 12:26:37 PM

Kate's post is bang on. Paula - you are entirely blinkered. Who cooks for wolves, Paula? Meat handling safely is a matter of common sense. I have fed raw for years, and guess what? Few vet visits, and healthier, longer living dogs. I also don't have to worry about commercial pet foods killing my animals, as has been the case in a few recall incidents over the past years. Don't be brainwashed people. Not too many generations ago, dogs were fed table scraps and anything else they could get. Their systems are designed to eat like scavengers, andit takes really rotten food to make them sick And how many of our great grandparents, before kibble existed, ever talked of dogs with cancers and skin conditions? Think about it.

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paula   new york, New York

9/8/2012 4:32:42 AM

Please cook your meat if youre feeding "raw" not only can uncooked meat transmit parasites and salmonella (uncooked chicken) but can also cause kidney failure etc. its not about the vets receiving a huge payoff from pet food companies...that is ridiculous.

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Kate   New York, New York

9/7/2012 5:22:29 PM

Oh, I see: so the "chicken meal" in pet foods is better than the chicken sold for human consumption. Gosh, I am so happy the AAHA and the AVMA told me this, because I may have poisoned my pet by feeding him a fresh preservative-free raw diet that isn't made with chicken meal and other meats obtained from road kill and sick and/or euthanised animals.


How stupid do these groups think the general pet-owning public can be? I have a simple message for the AAHA and the AVMA: you're full of it, and you're bought and paid for by big business. That means you have no credibility, and nobody is
listening.

I used to believe in what vets did, until I realised that they run a for-profit business, and keeping animals healthy lowers their profit, because healthy animals don't go to the vet. Enough said.

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Denise   greenwood, Delaware

9/7/2012 3:53:57 PM

these veterinary groups are crazy! they are getting big payofffs from the comercial food industry, and can't tell the truth that a balanced raw diet is the best for our dogs and cats. GEE, my grandparents and Great grandparents had many pets and work animals, I remember my grandpa said, what we eat the dogs eat. I remember them so healthy and loving! My dog is 10 1/2 years old, german shep. has a great coat, great attitude, and looks and feels fantastic, I guess I must be doing something wrong, with my diet, my pet is happy

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Karen   Bristolville, Ohio

9/7/2012 3:07:52 PM

I've been feeding a raw diet to my dogs for 12 years. I've NEVER had a problem with contamination from animals to humans. I clean up counters with OdoBan or vinegar & wash all bowls right after they finish eating.

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Melian and Tiny   E, CA

9/6/2012 11:38:17 PM

Sounds like sound advice. I'm all for raw food diets but they do need to be clean and sterile!

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